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#3705 Dante's Divine Internet

Posted by Riddikulus on 01 January 2016 - 06:33 PM

Thought ya'll might like to travel the travails of comedy divine...





Wrestling with the inner/outer self.

Value of the guide becomes irrelevant in the end.

Decisions of the self increase....
Chiasmic Triple tercet of tactics.

Plus random structures of context and images.

Song sssStructure:  ABA BCB CDC DED CDC BCB ABA

Rhyme and reason; rejection is hell.
Blaming Everyone, but yourself.
It gets better, once you get rolling...
Try not to assume so much along the way.


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#13256 Would You Like a Reading?

Posted by Rufus Tullius on 11 January 2018 - 01:47 PM






I've always enjoyed the narrative style from a good author. It brings the story teller in as a character. A narrator oversees a story's moral value or not. Knowing a bit about the narrative style helps to entice the reader into a more thoughtful discourse. 
Refining our reading of the narrator helps to capture our senses within the story. Usually, there are two types of person a narrator can be: 
The first and third. Yes, I know, grammar school English. Big deal. Right? Not so. Each has its own flavor in telling a story. So what are their differences?
First Person Narration captures the readers imagination by creating a sense of intimacy. It can force a reader into a more active roll by feeling the characters story. It is a direct telling and leaves the reader to figure out what the motives in the story are. First Person likes to ask 'why do we tell stories?" He is the I - the one closely observing the action.
Third Person Narration can be laid back and more relaxed. A free and indirect style. The reader knows the narrator is objective. Sort of like an omniscient know it all. Third Person keeps a certain distance from the reader. With third person an author can provide insight that is unknown to other characters in the story. Sorting through all the twisted images and putting sense to it all.
Third person can also capture language from one or more characters to give it a first person type of feel. Combining both at the same time allowing the reader to be inside and outside of the character at the same time. Sometimes it's possible to shift between these two narrative characters.
Then there are more unusual narrative possibilities to ponder. The use of the 'we' narrator is practical sometimes as an alternative choice. It's a first person plural narrator.
So the next time you pick up a book. Read a ways in and ask yourself if this is first or third person. How would the feel of the story change if it were told the other way around. 
How narrative moved beyond literary analysis
John Lanchester offers a brief take on this phenomenon in the London Review of Books:
"Back when I was at university, the only people who ever used the word ‘narrative’ were literature students with an interest in critical theory. Everyone else made do with ‘story’ and ‘plot’.  Since then, the n-word has been on a long journey towards the spotlight – especially the political spotlight. Everybody in politics now seems to talk about narratives all the time; even political spin-doctors describe their job as being ‘to craft narratives.’ We no longer have debates, we have conflicting narratives. It’s hard to know whether this represents an increase in PR sophistication and self-awareness, or a decrease in the general level of discourse."
In 1947 it was another Brit, George Orwell, who posited a direct relationship between political corruption and the misuse of language. But Orwell’s attention was fixed on language at the level of words and phrases: the use of euphemism to veil unspeakable horrors; empty slogans meant as a substitute for critical thinking; pretentious jargon designed to lend authority to special interests. While Orwell wrote many powerful narratives – fiction and nonfiction – he showed little interest in theories of political narratives in the way Lanchester describes.
The use of narrative for political purposes was not invented in this century or even the last. It is a standard lesson of Shakespeare scholarship that the Bard’s history plays, such as the Richard and Henry plays, tilted the historical record in favor of the Tudor dynasty (the family that gave England Queen Elizabeth I), an act of political dramaturgy that provided the playwright cover and, no doubt, financial rewards.
The long journey of narrative described by Lanchester took many professional stops before it arrived so conspicuously in the barrio of spin-doctors, speech writers, and other political handlers. For decades now, narrative theory has wended its way through the worlds of medicine, law, and business management, just to name the most obvious arenas.

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#13224 Would You Like a Reading?

Posted by Rufus Tullius on 08 January 2018 - 10:20 PM

Expanding the definition of fun.
Writing is a medium of language. Artful reading enlarges our sense of language and understanding.
Most of todays reading is done to extract information and discard it once it's used. Artful reading takes the time to appreciate a thoughtful phrase or a nifty turn of words. 
Here are some questions to consider:
What do you bring to your reading?
Is there an anticipation?
Ever re-read a paragraph because you thought it was beautifully put together; just for the simple pleasure of it?
How about Laughing out loud at some unexpected word play? 
How many times do you return to a book you've read before and found new nuggets of understanding?
Are the words casual?
Any disquises in fallacy?
What is the mood?
Is it formal or informal in language?
Literary fiction is alive and well. Classic literature gives us the examples for the many tools used by the past masters. Modern masters have taken this classic approach and added many more mediums of language to communicate our current modes of story telling. Humans have come a long way since the old fireside stories of the past.
Techno friction is a huge and growing epidemic. How many juxtapositions are artificially driven?
Confusion is a common approach to story telling. Juxtaposition is a common device used to portray a decent set of twisted images. A good writer will show the viewer all the twists and turns. Sometimes they're multi layered and offer new directions to explore when re-reading a particularly favorite book or story.
This thread will play in tandem with this one:

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#9895 Rhetorical Devices Used in Literary Logic

Posted by Rufus Tullius on 02 June 2017 - 11:45 AM

How can I make a thread of this nature without including metaphors?
Metaphors are one of the most common types of speech. They add a sort of definition and color because they describe a comparison between two things that are most often apart except for a common characteristic that can link the two together. A noun or a verb can be described as something different. 
An example comparing a chef to a writer. Learning to write can be visualized with cooking skills. One must learn to bake, roast, chop, and cut. Including all the little things that go with it through practice and experience. They're great for sharpening the imagination and to give further understanding in communicating ideas 
Metaphors are different from similes in that they don't use terms like "like" or "as" to compare two things. Metaphors make hidden comparisons. Portraying one thing as being something else but not that something else. There is an implied implicit meaning.

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#4982 Cock Tales and Feathers

Posted by LadyLiberty on 31 March 2016 - 01:04 PM

In 1779 a woman by the name of Betsy Flanagan owned a tavern near Yorktown, New York. Men from Washington's army used to hang out at this establishment to relax their worries and energize themselves with concoctions of alcohol known as bracers. Many of the officers used to tease old Betsy about the chickens that one of her close neighbors. Seems the neighbor was a Tory. Well, one day she decided to make them all eat their words.
Back in those days, no true patriot would buy anything from a Tory. It just wasn't done. Political correctness and all. So, Betsy arranged a wonderful chicken dinner for them. When they finished feasting on the delicious birds they continued their celebrations at the bar with more bracers. To their merriment they found each bottle or 'bracer' festooned with a cock's tail from the Tory chicken farmers coop. They laughed and laughed and a toast was called for and one of the men (I think he was French) exclaimed:
"Vive le cock tail"
Betsy was a popular gal it seems. Since that day forward all of Betsy's concoctions were known as cocktails, a name that we still use today to describe the inebriating drinks we so love to imbibe from time to time.

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#4795 Charms for inspiration...

Posted by Forster Woods on 13 March 2016 - 04:53 PM

I found a great thread from another site. It offers an artistic approach at creating 'enchantments'.  Whether by words and phrases, images, and sound. An inspirational approach that may help others transform their own personal relationships into something more positive.


An Art form of great Quality

Choose to click or not click!

That is the question.... :chicken4:


I'll offer a bit here on Chickensomething of what I added on this interesting thread. It dovetails into something I've been thinking about for some time...

Regarding the enchantments created by the medium in which I call like to call 'The Flickers'. An old term. A 'magic' word used by people long since dead when Magic lanterns became something more....

I'll try to get to more on magic words at the end of this post.

The problems and dangers of time travel. Sometimes, it's real hard getting back to the future. Ah well, I guess that's just the pro's and con's of hitch hiking. The guide on the galaxy is pretty good for that. All this led to a bit of visual psychology. You know, the hypnotism of the flickers. Symbolism of imagery combined with sounds and music. Looking at iconography and how it can be used for enchantments. Showing major contentions in the psychological injections of ideas and fantasies into our minds and ultimately our human spirit. These injections include both positive and negative stimulus.

Which ingredients for enchantments are the best kind? We could use humor as an example. Divide it in two. One side comedy, the other satire. Comedy is positive. Satire is negative.

Visuals in black and white. Silent film era...Positive and negative flickers of thought! Yeah, I know these are old flickers of enchantment, but, I think they're pretty good. Those old enchanters really knew what they were doin.

Harold Lloyd - Satire

His films seem to mock the human condition and enjoy doing it. Extreme situations of danger and personal catastrophe . Master at editing and clever camera work. Willing to do own stunts at great hazard.


Charlie Chaplin - Comedy

Comedy with etiquette and finesse. Positive in a world of suffering. The tramp should never talk. He says enough by his genius at silent lucid gesture.

Can this be a magical word of enchantment?

In those days your subtitle count was the measure of your art...

Now, I gotta ask, is this really good etiquette at the table?





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#4745 Giving the Game Away

Posted by Jesse Jimmie on 06 March 2016 - 10:31 AM

Divulging the inner scandal...


Giving the Game Away

Employer policies for employees to scam customers.

How much do people really sell themselves for the paycheck? What do employers make people do to sell more product or to cut costs in keeping profits high for the shareholders? Little jobs, big jobs, does it matter. What have you done to cheat a customer on behalf of the company you work for? Have you ever done a task for your employer that went against the grain of your own moral convictions?

Whistle blowers are welcome! Tell all. Tell us about how old spoiled meat left out in the open is added to the chili and how corn starch is thrown in to add fake consistency. Feel free to anonymously vent your frustrations on dishonest business practices. All kinds and colors are welcome. Who forces politicians to sign bills and resolutions without reading them? Any corporate Vice Presidents willing to give up uncouth trade practices? Teachers! Inform the public on what makes it difficult for you to perform your calling. Fast food workers! Tell us the dirty shortcuts our favorite restaurants achieve to help maximize their profits. Any upper management people? Give it up. Tell us the wicked and profane.

What goes beyond the limit of money changing and power profiteering!

Should an employee be loyal to dishonest practices? Pushing products while spinning lies of artificial certitude? How many brokers lie, cheat, and misinform their clients to get the big sale?



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#4116 Holy Sh*t: A Brief History of Swearing

Posted by Wicked Which on 19 January 2016 - 12:46 PM

The earliest use of the F-word discovered
‘Roger Fuckebythenavel’ as seen in the Cheshire County Court Rolls – TNA CHES 29/23 – photo by Paul Booth
Medieval Swear Words
What were bad words in the Middle Ages? In her book, Holy Sh*t: A Brief History of Swearing, Melissa Mohr takes a look at curse words from the ancient Romans to the modern day. Like with many aspects of medieval society, the way they swore was much different than ours.
An entertaining and far ranging historical journey....
Butt loads of wine?

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#3810 Orientating the Stars...

Posted by Ghostly Machines on 07 January 2016 - 03:55 AM

Cato stays where he is. For all his stubborn foolishness it was the right way for him. Roman honor dictated his ultimate action...too bad for him!


He points the way up the mountain!


Ah, a beautiful battle of thought. The medium must know itself in the unfolding of the poetic voice. Yes, Cato points the way up, but you are wrong in that he will stay where he is! After all, purgatory gives everyone redemption. Cato will move on, eventually! He has been forgiven his sin. For at this pathway to the mountain, Cato is urging Moral purification. He is saying to begin again...in forgiveness!
Appreciate what the good must be...
Love too much?
Love too little?
Love the wrong thing?
How do we measure?



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#3691 How to mix up a batch of extreme prejudice

Posted by Ghostly Machines on 30 December 2015 - 12:50 PM

Suppose it symbolizes adding fuel to burn for vain glory?!
Concentrating and condensing Itself for the chosen few .. or predestined.
The extreme use of prejudice denotes an escalation in hatred beyond insanity.


A Common factor with all groups with extreme prejudicial viewing systems:
They destroy not only a whole groups of human beings, but, all traces of their books, their artwork, their knowledge...
An evil, single minded force to wipe clean all traces of existence.


Follow the trail of all that glittering silver and gold coming over from the New World.


What did it finance?
What debts did the Crown incur?

Blood and Gold The Making of Spain





To whom were these debts paid to?

Where is all that gold and silver today?



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#14586 Current Human Condition And Perceptions

Posted by chickensomething on 20 July 2018 - 12:10 AM

One cannot help but notice the utter madness of rhetoric found from extreme portions of human consciousness in the middle of 2018, our collective planetary "calendar" made by man himself. Funny how nobody questions how or why the common calendar number of July 19, 2018 exists anyway. We all owe this reality to the ancient Egyptians and later, the Romans using the Julian system.


Surprisingly some modern day demagogue hasn't declared this number null and void yet starting at nothing calling this the New Age. Indeed it certainly is on many levels as mankind or sorry, humankind evolves into something just not quite right. When will the vails of truth be transparent and our minds free of influences of distortion?


In the struggle of the human condition and its move into artificial influences proclaimed as technological advancement, we find ourselves losing track with basic truths. Far too many external influences mesmerize our complex brains into useless matter completely void of useful desires or endeavors. Most of us are just trying to survive in a World that can only be described as disturbed. 


There are many schools of thought to these basic ponderings all of which have profound distinctions. For advanced species to evolve there should be no question of basic realities and no motivations for manipulation. 


Perception has become a social distortion of the human condition. This begs the question of what forces are at work causing this, if any? 

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#13573 Places You Are NOT Allowed To Visit…

Posted by Rufus Tullius on 06 February 2018 - 01:36 PM

I'm thinking number 9 on that list sort of makes everything else moot...


9. No one is supposed to contaminate space.



Everything we send up there contaminates it one way or another. Is it really possible to colonize the solar system without contaminating Earth with whatever may be out there?


Good thread idea Ghost!



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#13300 Would You Like a Reading?

Posted by Feathers on 13 January 2018 - 12:56 PM


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#13266 Would You Like a Reading?

Posted by Rufus Tullius on 12 January 2018 - 02:02 PM

Time for a few notes and questions about characters. Without them the reading process would be for naught.
What makes them interesting, why are they fascinating, and what makes them stick in our minds and hearts?
What embodiments do they possess which make them smart, full of feeling, what motivates them, their memories and desires, their fantasies and their foibles.
In short, what makes them tick. Both their good and bad attributes are important to these decisions.
E.M. Forster gave us some dintinctions to look for in his book 'Aspects of the Novel' to help define the process of character development.
These are the forms for lead and secondary characters:
Ever notice that niceness almost always prevails at the end of a book? 
Do characters have to be perfect? 
What sort of characters stand out? 
Does an aspect of a flat character bring out the roundness of of the lead character? 
Is the character interesting enough for you to be interested in what happens to him in the story? 
What would you like to see happen to a particular character? Why?
Do the internal struggles and conflicts resolve themselves? 
Does the crisis a character faces reckon itself with the past? 
How do the good attributes change to bad and visa-versa? 
Why are some characters round and others flat? 
Does the character surprise you? 
Does he convince?
Look for any juxtaposition to monitor your impressions over the course of a characters development. 
Is the image of the self what you want verses what you want to want? Example being: The Ginger vs. Marianne dilemna
These are just a few things to look for in your reading of characters. When you start asking these questions it'll open the door to a greater understanding of where your own character development can go through the course of your own life story. Understanding how characters develop as a reader may help tell the tale. Characters and how they interact are what drives any story or narrative. Without them there would be no life worth living...

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#13245 Would You Like a Reading?

Posted by Rufus Tullius on 09 January 2018 - 09:18 PM

Would you like a reading?
Reading is always full of questions.
There are many things to consider in the art of reading. Authors, narrators, and characters just to name a few. This post will focus on Authors and why readers discern their own favorites. It'll ask many questions for the critical reader to consider. First, we'll start with these:
How to we get to know an author?
What do we really need to know about the real life of the author to enjoy the work? 
What is the relationship between what we think we know about an author reading their books to the real life person?
What bias' form in your mind?
How does the figure of the author begin to make his presense known in the story?
How does he materialize on the page?
What kind of person writes particular kinds of stories?
Is the aim to instruct? Entertain? Both?
What does an author leave unsaid?
Will the author be a good influence or a bad one?
Does it help your reading experience or is it a hindrance?
Authors are like characters in their books. They are not all seeing masterminds creating stories to fool a reader. The authors character will show over the course of the book. A good author asks questions, explores their possibilities, and is willing to lose control. He materializes on the page in the language, form, and structure inside the work itself. The 'implied' author is implicit in the story. He becomes a person we like. 
Consider a few more questions:
Do we have too much expectations from an author?
How does this influence our approach in getting to know an author? 
What are the striking qualities throughout the piece that distingquish the authors presense? 
Does the voice of the story teller stand out?
Is he judgemental, humorous, gentle, hard, etc.? 
Do any of the characters portray these different qualities?
Are all the characters treated fairly?
Which ones are treated badly?
There is more to reading than just extracting information from and about an author. Think about the man who suffers and the man who creates. A mind that frames, develops, and polishes a story provides a rendering or translation of the man who suffers.  
A good author does not nesessarily begin a story with a theme or message. A message or moral does not need to come first. It is better to inform rather than confuse readers with undefined symbols and metaphors. Some authors start with ideas that transform information into questions without answers. Making it a process of discovery. Characters often rise up in the process and finish the story. 
An author constantly learns and uses all the fancy tricks available in the toolbox of communication. The hard part is learning how to use the tools. Reading helps us to do this. Practice makes perfect.
After all, it's the reader who is the final critic of the work. Learning the many tools for an artful reading is crucial to a successful experience.

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#10198 Rhetorical Devices Used in Literary Logic

Posted by MrChips on 17 June 2017 - 06:00 PM



Five star thread OP!


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The art of argumentation can be used against those who don't appreciate it's forms and structure as an art for distraction.

Skillful argumentation is an antidote to productive communication.  It offers a way to eliminate bickering, anger, fear, and all the trash that prevents decent control of oneself. It's both an informal and formal method of debate leading to agreement by examining claims and justification by focusing on the interaction of argument, Itself!.
I'd like to think humanity has upgraded itself since Homer, Aristotle, and the countless others who began the art of conversation. Setting conditions of claims and evidence and shifting it all around with inference and warrants. The whole point of reasonable argument is to look for resolution.  This only works, of course, with reasonable people. Closed minds and using physical force can obviously kill any argument, anytime!



Ethos, Pathos, and Logos

Rhetorical appeals and their uses:
Ethos refers to how trust worthy a person is. Ethos is used to appeal to a moral philosophy or reliable integrity. It attempts to signify credibility within the speaker.  It is effective as a strategy because it automatically inserts belief in the speakers credibility because of a higher educational or moral being. A doctor is good example. People hold a doctors power of reasoning in high regard. Same with a judge because a certain trust is automatically implied. It can used to challenge the reliability or moral stance in an argument. 
Pathos is another powerful device. They appeal to emotions. It's always loaded with vivid illustrations that trigger emotional buttons. The speaker wants the listener or reader to be persuaded by the emotional value this type of argument can generate. Packed with sympathy and empathy they dim the analytical processing of rational thought. The more people react to this type of rhetoric the more they become least likely to ask the big question(s). Like WHY? In many instances they're used in calls to action within a group or society.
Logos denotes an appeal to logic and reasoning. Logos is tricky because it relies on theories and abstract language. They include definitions, factual data, and statistics. Including learned comments by authoritative sources and Ethos driven opinions. Logos tries to give the best sources and reasoning. Appeals are taken as matter of facts and are useful in persuading others to believe a conclusion. 

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#9710 Rhetorical Devices Used in Literary Logic

Posted by Feathers on 23 May 2017 - 04:20 PM


Great thread idea OP. Looking up examples about this subject I noticed most of the videos about specific fallacies are made in India. Maybe that's just the cookie monster feeding me free samples...
This one involves a little thinking. It gives a decent explanation of syllogisms.
Systematically solve any syllogism problem within a minute without using Venn diagram. This method is called Aristotle's method and it is highly effective, just like solving two mathematical equation.






Therefore you are a chicken. Isn't that something?



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Posted by Riddikulus on 28 November 2016 - 05:49 AM

Spreading black plague

For years people have been complaining of waste running down the rivers in America. Doing some research in my own state reveals much behind the curtain of politics we all face today. The great show on the major media hardly touches the real concerns facing the infrastructure of our country today.


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#13310 Would You Like a Reading?

Posted by Rufus Tullius on 13 January 2018 - 07:31 PM

They can fun and tedious if long winded. Especially when a lot of tautology is involved. Sometimes a narrator will stop for a moment and fill the reader in on all the people, places, and things around the character. There is a tendency in older literature to provide a more detailed description in the imagery presented. I think it's because describing imagery has changed over time with the introduction of photography and moving pictures. This gives people of today greater choices in imagery to use in describing their own stories. Script writers and play writes use lots of descriptors in their work. Visual props in the mind give it pop and clarity.
When does a description become too tiresome for the reader? 
(twitter! short descriptors gone viral) 
I recall a massive and drawn out description in Victor Hugo's epic Les Miserbales. Toward the end when Paris is blazing with revolution. The hero, Jean Valjean, goes into the Paris sewer system to escape the conflagrations above. Hugo's description of the Paris sewers is immense. A whole chapter explaining the centuries of mazes built under the city give it a vivid appeal. After reading it you gain an understanding of the history of the city involved. 
What other kinds of questions can be asked about this kind of treatment in description? Especially in a place as dark and dank as a sewer. Does it reflect what it takes to sacrifice so much to escape all of Jean's perils? I think the scene in the movie The Shawshank Redemption is an excellent parallel to this...
The scene where the hero crawls out of the shithole? No? Don't remember? How about this one..?
Good descriptions create vivid impressions, always raising up new questions and possiblities. Descriptions are what define the characters and sharpens the story. They show how the world looks and feels to the characters.
What about sparce, invisible, and in between the line descriptions. You know. Tricky ones that make you think. What is not said or implied has a descriptive voice too. Can you see it on the page? Descriptive points of view don't just add to a story they tell it. Instead of the narrator telling the reader straight about a character he adds description to make it fun for the audience. Sometimes a good description or image is all you need to get a good feel in. It gives it more definition to reasons and realities and how a character deals with them. Controlling and selecting details are essential to create movement. Piling them up just for effect gets a bit boring after a while. 
Observations and descriptions are not only literary functions. They also provide a means for people to express individual point of view. Learning how to use Descriptors for ourselves and others helps for a greater understanding of what is really important, common, and downright trivial in our lives. Be careful how you judge superficial details in others. Lest they reveal your own inner descriptions. 

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#11372 Humanity Wake Up Call From An Icon Of The Past

Posted by Riddikulus on 01 September 2017 - 01:51 PM

Charlie Chaplin!


One of my favorites.


He and many others formed the foundation for the power of movie magic upon the soul of all mankind.


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It's interesting how the ideas created in the movies flow into the mind of pop culture. Those in the beginning of this age of flickering light new the value of the stars they created in the eyes of the people. Propaganda to keep people informed for both good or ill. The symbolic structures created in these moving images managed (and still do, better than ever) to instill the perfect form of mass hypnotism into the heart of society. Never before had such a medium of general programming been possible. 
Silent film had more communication power over a wider range of diversity. It communicated in any spoken language; crossing all culture barriers. Where ever a screen could be set up one could see a single world view through the gates of moving time. Giving it strength to tell a story to inspire anyone from anywhere. Everybody knew who Charlie Chaplin was. No dubbing required.

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