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#1 Ludikrus

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 07:46 AM

Does this name fill you with loathing?  It shouldn't!  Here's an interesting biography on Niccolo Machiavelli.  The man who told the world how the rich and famous get and hold power.   He just happened to be there, at the right time and place, to document first hand, the wretched dealings of the powers that be.

 

 


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#2 Jesse Jimmie

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 11:50 AM

Sun Tzu - The Art of War would make a good companion to this thread

 

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#3 Ludikrus

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 05:03 PM

Here's a more detailed biography about Machiavelli

Machiavelli In Context - It comes with a guidebook in a 2 part audio series

 

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Posted 25 December 2015 - 07:46 AM

Although it is relatively short, the treatise is the most remembered of Machiavelli's works and the one most responsible for bringing the word "Machiavellian" into usage as a pejorative. It also helped make "Old Nick" an English term for the devil, and even contributed to the modern negative connotations of the words "politics" and "politician" in western countries. In terms of subject matter it overlaps with the much longer Discourses on Livy, which was written a few years later. In its use of near-contemporary Italians as examples of people who perpetrated criminal deeds for politics, another lesser-known work by Machiavelli which The Prince has been compared to is the Life of Castruccio Castracani.
 
The descriptions within The Prince have the general theme of accepting that the aims of princes—such as glory and survival—can justify the use of immoral means to achieve those ends.
 

 


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#5 Ghost in the Machine

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 02:41 PM

Machiavelli was a great observer of the worst kinds of vice in human behavior. All just to gain and keep power! Very little virtue can be found in all these models of absolute power...
 
I like what you've done in linking Dante with Machiavelli. 
 
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Posted 21 January 2016 - 02:18 PM

Machiavelli, the New World and the Republic



http://schillerinsti...achiavelli.html

 

 


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 01:31 PM

Does this name fill you with loathing?  It shouldn't!  Here's an interesting biography on Niccolo Machiavelli.  The man who told the world how the rich and famous get and hold power.   He just happened to be there, at the right time and place, to document first hand, the wretched dealings of the powers that be.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=il3FTIIvn3Q

 

That link is bad. 

 

Machiavelli is great. What principalities do you enjoy? He provides us with many examples. Their ups, their downs...
 
It's a great list of the pros and cons of bitch slapping... :chick07:
 
 
Machiavelli reflects back on the history of it all. Sort of psycho-analysing the past and describes to us the hows and whys of failure for each kind of principal. These techniques of reflection, discovery, and analysis can be used to look inward towards our own personal histories as well. Remember, it's not always about failure. There are successes to ponder, also.
 
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#8 Ludikrus

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 02:07 PM

That's a good response, Cedric. I like that cuz it reminds me of Dante. They go well together so good!

 

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Anyways, here's the video. Utoob can be such a b#tch!

 

 

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 02:50 PM

Does this name fill you with loathing?  It shouldn't!  Here's an interesting biography on Niccolo Machiavelli.  The man who told the world how the rich and famous get and hold power.   He just happened to be there, at the right time and place, to document first hand, the wretched dealings of the powers that be.

 

 

 

That youtube link is dead L. So I'll add another for those interested in this man. He did see TPTB for what they really are and he suffered for it with massive sanctions against his person. 

 

 

https://youtu.be/_A-UCkmldnk

 

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Posted Yesterday, 01:39 PM

All moral evaluation is lost when the prince comes to town. To survive in the jungle one must use cruel means. If you fear revenge, cripple it. If you fear an enemy, crush him. These principals are always effective in the excersise of power.
 
Is Machiavelli himself a reprehensible individual for describing the anatomy of power? He's been vilified for centuries; banned by the church, promoted as true evil, indirectly responsible for the NAZI regime. 
 
The modern use of this work can be seen in the current oligarchies that run this world. Business leaders and politicians have taken these principals of control to new extremes. Some well hidden and ever shifting to shape new avenues of commerce.
 
This lecture also touches on the psychological uses of grouping society by religion, ritual, and race to effectively build bases of fear inside and outside the group setting.  
 
"The Prince" After 500 Years 
 
 
 
 

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